POI

Nov. 21st, 2013 01:05 pm
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Okay, so I forgot it was Tuesday and failed to watch POI live, and then got myself spoiled for the Big Death. I was not entirely surprised by it -- [livejournal.com profile] marakara had a really good argument for it before any of us knew who it would be -- but still. CARTER. That's not right. One less strong kick-ass woman on television. I loved that character, especially once they took Cal -- with whom she had *zero* chemistry -- out of the picture and gave her something to do again.

(From the ew.com interview: her favorite Carter quote was "You're working for me now, son." Yes. A million times.)

ANYHOW. At least they let her know she'd succeeded in her quest (for now, anyway), thank goodness. And I hope to heaven's sake they find and kill Simmons next week.

But here's the real deal: the actual culprit/catalyst in her death is not HR. It's Finch.

1. She figured out the Machine, and that freaked Finch out. (Honestly, I'd forgotten that she didn't officially know, but anyone with a brain could figure it out.) So to him, the eternal protector of the Machine, she officially became a threat.
2. Root had planted the concept of losing Reese (I refuse to go by first names on any of these people) firmly in his head, and that also freaked him out.
3. So when Finch saw Simmons firing on Reese and Carter at the same time the pay phone began to ring, he suspected that it was Carter's number, because Reese's number had been cleared and I don't think a number comes up twice in a row. (Unless you're Charlie Pace, who is well and destined to die no matter what. Whoops, wrong show.)
4. So Finch knew that Reese would try to save Carter at the expense of his own life, and that Carter would try to save Reese with her number on the table.
5. NOBODY GUESSES ABOUT THE MACHINE.
6. AND NOBODY MESSES WITH FINCH'S BOY REESE.
7. So Finch did nothing -- quite obviously, too -- and let Carter die.

I didn't think the Machine gave you a number on that fast of a turnaround, but this could be the New Machine, Root's Machine, making the call. Which could also be why Root appears to be part of the Scooby Gang in the previews.

So I suspect Reese might figure this out once he comes out of his black hole, and this will be a small problem for him and Finch. Root will absolutely know what happened, because she's Fucking Root, Man, and she'll torment Finch with it. Finch is going to have to get used to the new world order surrounding the Machine, but Root will be a 100 percent loose cannon, looser than Shaw by orders of magnitude, and she may yet still be honest-to-god crazy, too.

I miss Carter already, but I think I like where this is going.

Side note: the part that increased the amount of dust in the room for me?

Shaw: I don't think I can be there for you now, Lionel.
Fusco: You did good.

Fusco rocks. Even though I'm annoyed that Carter is gone, I'm glad they've freed up the script space where they can potentially use him more.

Second side note: I think the only reason that, oh all right, John kissed Joss was because he honestly thought he was about to die. If his number hadn't been up, he wouldn't have done it, and he would have stuck to surreptitious beers and cute fist bumps. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Boy, I haven't thought about a TV show this hard in ages.

Date: 2013-11-21 07:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kirbyfest.livejournal.com
Fusco was amazing. I got choked up.

I am going to have to noodle on your theory. You should unlock it so I can share it, because it is (so far as I can tell) unique.

I'm the only person in the fandom who gives two shits about Root, unfortunately. So losing Carter and having more Root is not playing to my fannish happy place. Bleah.

Date: 2013-11-21 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timesink.livejournal.com
Man, I haven't had a unique thought in ages! I unlocked it, so go ahead and share.

Date: 2013-11-21 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opus163.livejournal.com
I don't watch POI, but M, as usual, sucked me into just checking it out. It helped that I like Sarah Shahi (from "Life") and that scene you quoted? Choked me up, too.

Date: 2013-11-22 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marakara.livejournal.com
But here's the real deal: the actual culprit/catalyst in her death is not HR. It's Finch.

Oh, fascinating theory. I dont' know if I agree but I like parts of it. After the victims of the shooting, I felt awful for Finch who ultimately isn't built for the sort of work Reese, Carter and Shaw do (and to some extent Fusco too). He's this war's Oppenheimer - built something that became so much more than he could control.

I didn't think the Machine gave you a number on that fast of a turnaround, but this could be the New Machine, Root's Machine, making the call.

I thought they got one number (or series of interrelated numbers) per day. Reese was the prior day's number. Carter was that day's number

Which could also be why Root appears to be part of the Scooby Gang in the previews.

Or with an injured and perhaps unhinged Reese, she may be the fill in muscle.

Shaw: I don't think I can be there for you now, Lionel.
Fusco: You did good.


That was a fabulous scene. Kevin Chapman won't get any notice from the people who hand out awards because the only CBS drama the awards people notice is on Sunday night but that was an amazing performance. From saying goodbye to his son to the absolute crazed look to Fusco as he killed his tormentor - just great.

John kissed Joss was because he honestly thought he was about to die. If his number hadn't been up, he wouldn't have done it, and he would have stuck to surreptitious beers and cute fist bumps.

In an interview, the executive producers said they shot that scene a number of times and the kiss wasn't in the script and wasn't in all the shots. It just came out of what they were doing organically and it made it into the program.

I miss Carter already

I do too. She was a unique character on TV - single mom, detective, former soldier who was smart, tough confident and a good person. She had her problems but she didn't let them define her. In some ways, she was the most normal one in the group.

Take Care
Mara
Edited Date: 2013-11-22 02:10 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-11-22 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timesink.livejournal.com
Kevin Chapman was brilliant, absolutely.

I don't think they get a number every day -- they've had eps where Finch and/or Reese complain about business being slow -- but I'm pretty sure they don't get repeats.

Organic? Not scripted? I can live with that.

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